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« on: September 15, 2011, 01:27:55 AM » |
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 02:04:35 AM » |
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Woaaaaaaaaaaaaah, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!
Oh, my God, it is a monster. I love it (and I have not got Wissen)
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 03:12:42 AM » |
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Yeah... because Wissenschaft really needs more powerful characters. He is from sagaIII? 7 at - just wow. It means that power creep officialy has started, well we all saw that coming. Scary guy. I don't like only naming of his attack: Terminus-it's same as name of name of Alastor's orders. Hmm he is Gear, so who is piloting him?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 09:55:17 AM » |
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Dont write than her Gear. Q: Advantage Gear Project work at Sigma?
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 10:15:50 AM » |
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Hmm he is Gear, so who is piloting him? No one, it is a magically self-automated/aware robot from the Solomon era. Essentially I assume it counts as a Gear so no advantage cards can be attached to the character and to take advantage of the Wiss Gear Organization Advantage. What I'm really curious about is: if the model image shown is the final sculpt will it still be made of pewter? I can't image how it will possibly balance on the base if it is. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 10:47:51 AM » |
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What I'm really curious about is: if the model image shown is the final sculpt will it still be made of pewter? I can't image how it will possibly balance on the base if it is.  I was just wondering about that, me too.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 11:00:50 AM » |
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If the model image shows the final sculpt, than the sculpt will be great.  Well the balance point should be under Hecatondies feet. So as long as you glue the pillar at the backpart of the base, that Hecatondies feet are about at the middle of the base, there should not be a balance problem. Maybe a bit difficult to find that point. However the wight of the model has a big impact on the bottom of the pilar and the base. I am not sure if super glue is enough to make this stable. Maybe you have to reenforce connection (pinning). In my opinion Hecatondies is not overpowered. He is a real beatstick, but he costs 80 levels. But he has some nasty abilities. Lockon
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 11:12:41 AM » |
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To be honest I'd rather take XII and Valis than Hecatondies and, say, Sophia. Or simply stick to Legacy. He's very, very one-dimensional, although extremely fast. His best attack is killer against DR, but will leave him unable to dodge and you can't give him a Clock just in case.
As for the model - who knows, this might be the first resin model in the line. Frankly, I don't see how it would be humanly possible to attach those ginormous wings and have them stay in place if they were metal.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 12:34:48 PM » |
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@ -DE- You think he is not suited for Wissenschaft play-style? I have no experience but it/he/she looks quite solid. 7 basic attack, decent abilities and good Power Cells add-ons.
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 01:16:41 PM » |
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Being the resident self proclaimed Wiss expert (Zerus better than me but hes in japan right now so it will take a while for him to post his response), I say you guys are amazingly blind if u do not think Zero Sigma is on par with Legacy.
Hes certainly not one dimensional at all. He has Flight + 16" charge that is 9/6. Thats a very powerful normal charge and he can fly right over tough tanks to attack more vulnerable targets. His Push attacks are 7/6 which is quite accurate. His 3ap attack is a accurate throw allowing him to either free himself from a battle or throw them deeper into enemy lines. He has a powerful AoE ranged attack that is quite accurate. Even Prehensile tail is great for harassment since an opponent almost assuredly will dodge the 7/0 dam attack to avoid the dangerous Paralyze Effect which means you are trading 1 ap for 1 ap. Very useful for those situations where you and your opponent both only have 3 ap which happens plenty in AT.
Terminus is certainly a very situational attack but if you can manage to pull it off it will be devastating with a token. The best use of Terminus might be against DR tanky units like Macbeth but it will be tough to get off safely. Execution is just a situational because you have to be very lucky to be able to get it off or your are playing a Dark Faction team and taking people like Bael. In which case......Execution certainly could be very nasty.
My pointing being is that Zero Sigma has multiple uses in a Wissenschaft list. 1) Hes a gear that can keep up with the rest of the 12/16 fighters in Wiss 2) He has a powerful and Accurate Ranged AoE attack 3) He can throw people with accurate attacks 4) He has a variety of attacks which, while situational, make him flexible in battle 5) FLIGHT + 16" Charge = FEAR HIM!
A 1 dimensional character is someone like Kronen or Claude, who can only tank well.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 02:12:32 PM » |
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For the most part, I agree with Hiro's assessment. The Zero Sigma is incredibly powerful.
9/6 Flying Charge for 3 AP is an incredible base charge, and being able to throw out a 10/6 Throw as a 3 AP special attack, or a Paralyze + 7/11 Combo for the same cost is very good.
Execution is incredibly dangerous for anyone who falls victim to Paralyze, as Zero Sigma can spend a token and obliterate his target, no matter who they are.
Terminus is situational, but due to the Zero Sigma's speed it is rather easy for it to hang back and obliterate someone at the end of a round. Keep in mind that it is a 12/8 Charge that will probably be ignoring armor + throwing due to the Energy Token buff (which you should always use with Execution if your performing it), making it one of the strongest attacks in the game. I'd say only Clover's Prometheum outmatches it. This is also far from limited to DR characters, it is a serious threat to any character due to its very high accuracy. Any 0 AP character within 16 inches of the Sigma is basically dead.
Also, by how its read, I believe the Zero Sigma would benefit from the Gear Project Advantage. While Fluff wise it isn't a Gear, it is acting as such for the A:T game. I'm just thankful it can't take Advantage Cards + Process.
I think the Zero Sigma is a very good alternative to Wissenschaft's other leaders. A flying 12/16 charger is something I never expected to see, especially on such a bruiser, but 80 levels is a very steep leader cost that forces some very significant limitations to most lists.
Other fun facts: Zero Sigma has the second best (after Aizen) escape roll in the game, making it impossible to tie down for most characters. Larger base size + 12/16 speed = 3+ escape roll against small base characters.
Consider all of the above is on a character with a ranged 16 7/6 (7/8), 2 (4) inch AoE attack.
Org Advantage: The Process
Zero Sigma Lorenzo Hiro Cordelia Feng Yi Sophia
This is one of the better possible lists. Though if you use Manipulation it is quite easy to fit in some powerful characters like Faust.
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 08:19:54 PM » |
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He is very good. I do not consider it power creep though because he is 80 points. 80 points is one tough character where you could be fighting two instead.
Neither of my current Church lists would take a pause fighting him because he can be dealt with. However, I would I do think he presents some very good options for Wiss because he can effectively tank, has a good ranged attack and is a good melee combat fighter. It does mean I have to plan for my opponent with multiple scenarios. Flying 16" charge could actually be rather problematic for my current Samael list. Luckily his resist is only a standard 10 so I think he will be the target of a lot of negative status effects when playing Samael against him. Even still, he has a pretty good chance of one-shotting someone like Bael or Aoi before it has a chance to hit him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 08:23:19 PM » |
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Thoughts on pairing him with Bella & Aqua? Nowhere does it say that he has to do the paralyzing in order to drop his coup de grāce , and being able to spam paralysis may increase his odds of a running riot, so to speak.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 09:53:49 PM » |
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Good god he's beautiful! I love both his sculpt and his stats. What really puts him over the top for me is that his Power Tokens are reactive. Meaning I can wait until the last moment before deciding what I want to boost before going all psycho.
Oh and Zeru is it for sure he a large base and not a medium? If so then even better since that means he can throw everyone including Morrigan and The Legacy full distance.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 10:13:40 PM » |
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I think I'm in love!
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 If it's difficult, it's attempted. If it's impossible, then it's doneFor a coward there is no life, for a hero there is no death. 
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