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[Noble Pigeon]

I'm not sure why, but when I first read the passage in the Gaia sourcebook describing The Unknown, I felt strangely unnerved.

Nothing is known about this entity, whether it really even exists or if it has manifested at some point in history.

 Part of this has to do of my own perspective of fear. When I think of fear, I don't think of something obvious and in your face. I think of anxiety, or fear of the unknown (heh get it). It might exist, it might not.

Omega and Lazarus, alongside the Imperium, are certainly terrifying in their own way, and nothing can be more unnerving than a campaign centering on Omega while never actually meeting him until the very end of the campaign when he inevitably breaks free of his prison.

But something about this "Unknown" really chills me. Maybe the Church unknowingly labelled an entity that is much more terrifyingly powerful than anything Imperium, Lazarus, Omega, or even Nemesis has to offer. Which might sound a bit cliche, especially for a setting like Anima where "there's always a bigger fish."

Or heck, maybe it all really is just a number, and nothing's under the bed.

Probably.

Anyway, I'm curious on other people's thoughts on this. Has this "Unknown" ever factored into your games, or has it ever shown up in any other Anima sources?

[Lizbeth]

Also there are Genesis (dunno what is it, all I know is that it eat gods for breakfast) and aeons like Noth.

[Spirit_Crusher]

In my game, messenger 0 is Lazarus. Also, the church is mistaken on the identity of many of them, but not all.

[Lizbeth]

Btw, about the Omega.. Lazarus, Eljared and Nemesis can one-shot kill the Omega.

[Light]

The Unknow is... the PC or PNC that the DJ wants... thats why The Unknow exists ^^

[Ape2020]

The Unknow is... the PC or PNC that the DJ wants... thats why The Unknow exists ^^

WTF?  LOL, them alot of acronyms might have to call AAAAA.   

-Ape2020

[Noble Pigeon]

Btw, about the Omega.. Lazarus, Eljared and Nemesis can one-shot kill the Omega.

I was always confused about which was more powerful, Omega or Lazarus. Then again, all I've seen of Lazarus is from the Gaia book (I actually purchased the Gaia book and Those Who Walked Amongst us before the core rulebook, which I have yet to get), which consisted of a few paragraphs. Then I get Those Who Walked Amongst Us and read up on the many ways Omega can dish out pain. Is Lazarus detailed more in the core rulebook?

But if what you say is true, then if my hypothetical Messenger 0 entity is more powerful than any of them...well that would just suck wouldn't it?

[alphawhelp]

Btw, about the Omega.. Lazarus, Eljared and Nemesis can one-shot kill the Omega.

not possible, Omega cannot suffer more than  200 damage per round in his final form, unless you say that they have higher gnosis than Omega, which would be pretty tough, since Omega's gnosis is 40, and AS has said only one person with Gnosis 45 has ever set foot on Gaia.  (in my game, though, it is Eljared).

[Lizbeth]

I was always confused about which was more powerful, Omega or Lazarus. Then again, all I've seen of Lazarus is from the Gaia book (I actually purchased the Gaia book and Those Who Walked Amongst us before the core rulebook, which I have yet to get), which consisted of a few paragraphs. Then I get Those Who Walked Amongst Us and read up on the many ways Omega can dish out pain. Is Lazarus detailed more in the core rulebook?

But if what you say is true, then if my hypothetical Messenger 0 entity is more powerful than any of them...well that would just suck wouldn't it?

By what is vaguely hinted by the Dominus Exxet Lazarus have Opuchios Lord of the Infinite Swords Ars Magnus (requires 100 martial Knowledge) and technique tree for 490 martial knowledge. That is 730 total including the prerequisites Use of, Presence Extr, Aura Ext, Inhumanity and Zen. It brings us to Lv 13 assuming he took Martial Training III, or Lv 16 without it. I believe he have some more Dominion Abilities, not only the prerequisite ones, and also he have to invest to his Dominion pools and accumulations (at least 5 each, his techs are bloody expensive), + Ars Magnus for 50 DP. So he is Lv 16 at very least. Lv 19 if he have (which I'm sure of) Total Accumulation and other stuff.
And yes, some amount of monster powers, from his gnosis 40 or even more.

not possible, Omega cannot suffer more than  200 damage per round in his final form, unless you say that they have higher gnosis than Omega, which would be pretty tough, since Omega's gnosis is 40, and AS has said only one person with Gnosis 45 has ever set foot on Gaia.  (in my game, though, it is Eljared).

Yes, You're right. Still Lazaurus will be able to finish off the Omega due to sheer power.

[Light]

Ammmm Nemesis, Lazarus and Eljared are the top tier by far in Gaia.

They can destroy Omega in ONE blow (if they can of course)cause they got the same or more Gnosis... so hes inmunity doesnt matter to them.

Probaably Lazarus have 1d10 Atacks instead of Ophioucus (like the Seraphim) and the Ars Magnus Rupture of the Destiny...

[Lizbeth]

Probaably Lazarus have 1d10 Atacks instead of Ophioucus (like the Seraphim) and the Ars Magnus Rupture of the Destiny...

As for Ophioucus it's almost guaranteed. Lazarus is cover boy of Dominus Exxet, and also he can be seen at the Ars Magnus page itself (this picture was called Lazarus for one day lol).
As for Rupture of Destiny nothing hints on it or I have missed something.

[Light]

You miss a lot XD

[Lizbeth]

Hint me!

[Sharpandpointies]

Ammmm Nemesis, Lazarus and Eljared are the top tier by far in Gaia.

They can destroy Omega in ONE blow (if they can of course)cause they got the same or more Gnosis... so hes inmunity doesnt matter to them.

Do they?  Has Anima Studios stated they do?

Otherwise, I wouldn't say they did.

As for Lazarus, the hints in Dominus Exxet involve him and Ophinicus, and him and the 'Anima' Dominion Tech Tree.  Which, honestly, is enough for him to beat Omega after a fight even if his gnosis is under 40.

[Lizbeth]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that yes, AS said that Eljared can oneshot omega. Better to check via search.

Also I modeled some npc with power comparable to Eljared. This NPC oneshot Omega with ease.